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Friday, December 27, 2013

The Selfish Gene: A defence against ID Attacks


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As for other topics: the"Evolution theory" is no more science. It has so much holes and problems, that you can not take it as "scienific theory" Sorry but it is the reality: science which checks the facts has conclusions which are against the darwinistic model.

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I've read these references, and all are spurious or irrelevant. Moran basically agrees with Dawkins, and only complains that selfish alleles would be a better name than selfish gene. I have no quibble here, and doubt Dawkins would either. Moran's other complaint is Dawkins' alleged extreme reliance on natural selection, as if he ignored all other forces on genes, such as luck. That is a false characterization of Dawkins, who most certainly recognizes non-natural selection in genes: read The Blind Watchmaker for whole chapters on genetic drift, and so forth. This is a false, but common criticism of people who have not bothered to read Dawkins.

As far as I can make out, Edwards uses a mix of incomprehensible pseudophilosophy to claim Dawkins ideas are the equivalent to Social Darwinism, a claim Dawkins has demolished many times himself. Then there are statements like, "With regard to the ‘selfish’ gene concept where is the gene for selfishness?" so completely misconstrues the Selfish Gene theory that they utterly miss Dawkins point. Dawkins' has pointed out innumerable time that of course genes don't have selfish intentions; it is just that in bodies and species, it is a useful way of modeling their apparent intentions.

As for Hogenboom, she simply goes all out in misunderstanding selfish genes, without, apparently, a trace of serious though at all about the subject. She actually thinks selfish genes must lead to selfish individual behavior, and never to cooperation! I have to emphasize this because the fact that selfish genes can lead to highly cooperative behaviors (individuals in a species share a large number of genes) has been well understood by scientists for decades and no one seriously questions it. Dawkins would just shake his head at this invincible ignorance, I suspect.

Your "As for other topics: the"Evolution theory" is no more science. It has so much holes and problems, that you can not take it as "scienific theory" Sorry but it is the reality: science which checks the facts has conclusions which are against the darwinistic model." is itself merely a claim made without reading Dawkins (at all, I'll wager), only his ill-informed critics, and believing this is scientific research. But it is not. It is only wishful thinking (there has to be an intelligent creator out there!), with statements and claims cherry picked to appear to support your preconceived believed, while science in full stubbornly refuses to cooperate. Please, please Mr. Gvelesiani, stop deluding yourself.

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